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The new album has been leaked! How can we help fight this?

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You can't.

It's been going on for years

& sadly it'll continue

Now more then ever since more things are going digital

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We can fight it by Sony/ATV having better security on their site because that's where the people got it from. Or from Sony/ATV just plain not putting it up on their site until the album is released anyway. And then probably don't spread the word on where you got it from leaving the door open for others to go get it, if you don't want it to spread. Just sayin. The more people know it leaked, the more people are going to download it.

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I don't understand how stuff gets leaked. If I was an artist I would be the only one to have it until it was release day... 

We can fight it by Sony/ATV having better security on their site because that's where the people got it from. Or from Sony/ATV just plain not putting it up on their site until the album is released anyway. And then probably don't spread the word on where you got it from leaving the door open for others to go get it, if you don't want it to spread. Just sayin.

Will she be compensated by Sony/ATV for them messing up? 

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I don't understand how stuff gets leaked. If I was an artist I would be the only one to have it until it was release day... 

Will she be compensated by Sony/ATV for them messing up? 

They didn't really mess up.

You're supposed to have an account to access anything on their website (search songwriters and songs and things), and you can't even make an account without having a "client number" and "payee number" and an activation code. Someone found some crazy way around it idk what they did but basically the only way anyone would have not found it is for it to just plain not be uploaded anywhere until release day. But people always like to have stuff ready way ahead of time so they can just click a button and make it live.

 

Honestly as much as it sucks, Lights isn't going to lose a ton of money from this. We live in a time where even if people don't have the money for the album right now, and download it illegally, they find ways to contribute to the artist when they can. People who put their stuff online for free and even make money. A rapper I like, Spose, will put his albums on his Bandcamp for free but gives you a "pay what you want" option, so you can get it for free or you can pay however much you see fit or can afford. Nowadays, the most important thing is getting your music out there. If people love your music, they will buy your album even if they initially get it the wrong way. If they don't do that, they will come to your shows and buy your merch.

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If anyone thinks they can stop/fight piracy, they are in their own fantasy world.

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And honestly, the majority of profits come from tours/merch, not albums.

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We can help fight this by not listening to the leak, not spreading the link of the leak around, and buy supporting Lights (by going to her concert, buying her merch and CD).

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Just because someone is listening to the leak doesn't mean that they aren't going to buy the CD... Numerous times in topics where the leak was discussed, majority of people clarified that though they are listening to the leak, they had preordered the CD and have no intention of cancelling it.

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My main issue with the leak is that whoever keeps posting the entire album on YouTube is also running ads on it, not cool.

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My main issue with the leak is that whoever keeps posting the entire album on YouTube is also running ads on it, not cool.

 

That's another issue entirely. Agreed, not cool.

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Just because someone is listening to the leak doesn't mean that they aren't going to buy the CD... Numerous times in topics where the leak was discussed, majority of people clarified that though they are listening to the leak, they had preordered the CD and have no intention of cancelling it.

 

Right? That's my situation. I'm sick of the "how dare you" attitude the majority of the fanbase has over this issue.

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The only ones that can fight piracy are the artists letting people get their music for free (complete album uploaded on YouTube and SoundCloud)

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My main issue with the leak is that whoever keeps posting the entire album on YouTube is also running ads on it, not cool.

Uploaders make no money uploading music! Once I uploaded a song, YouTube recognized that the song wasn't mine, they told me they put ads in the video so that copyright's owner could do some money with his song

We can help fight this by not listening to the leak, not spreading the link of the leak around, and buy supporting Lights (by going to her concert, buying her merch and CD).

You support more spreading her music than not spreading it

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All you can do now is keep the leak quiet, and not pass on any links. I understand not wanting the entire world to have it yet, I feel Lights should be able to unveil it herself, but as somebody that downloaded the leak, I can't talk at all. I am personally keeping it pretty quiet, but even without this leak, there were a number of people with the songs that were posting snippets and parts of songs. The only way to keep things from leaning to the internet is not to keep them lingering there, which is not on us at all.

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http://www.celebritiesmoney.com/lights-net-worth-singer-songwriter/

 

Lights has already made 250,000 dollars off of her new album. I think she will be alright.

Why does Metallica have the same worth than Lights? lol

Incredible also Mushroom Head has the exact same worth of Lights and Metallica, they earned the same amount of money also looking each album in chronological order!

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I think fans who will seek this out and download it will most likely be loyal fans and buy the album anyway, so I doubt she loses out. If anything such music availability increases an artists popularity enormously.

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Why does Metallica have the same worth than Lights? lol

Incredible also Mushroom Head has the exact same worth of Lights and Metallica, they earned the same amount of money also looking each album in chronological order!

If you don't believe that Lights has money look up her house price. 

 

In the Area she is in BC the houses are half a million dollars

 

http://expdata.com/ca/sale.php?id=15909037

 

Lights' house is twice as big and she has a huge yard so her house is more than these. 

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If you don't believe that Lights has money look up her house price. 

 

In the Area she is in BC the houses are half a million dollars

 

http://expdata.com/ca/sale.php?id=15909037

 

Lights' house is twice as big and she has a huge yard so her house is more than these.

Are you stupid? [cit.]

I was saying that the site you linked before has fake information (the same information for several artists), I'm not saying that she is poor, lol.

And the fact that her house is 600k dollars worth mmm, no it isn't enough to say that she is as rich as that site says.

She's not poor (in short-mid term) since she sold lots of albums, but do not trust that site and do not believe she has already earned 250k from Little Machines.

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If you don't believe that Lights has money look up her house price. 

 

In the Area she is in BC the houses are half a million dollars

 

http://expdata.com/ca/sale.php?id=15909037

 

Lights' house is twice as big and she has a huge yard so her house is more than these. 

You two must be good friends if you know her house is 5,800 square feet!

 

That was a joke by the way.

 

In all seriousness though, someone's house size can be a poor indicator of how much money they make. Basically anyone can get a mortgage for a big house if they pay the minimum down payment and are willing to pay a ton of interest. I'm not saying that Lights is poor, just saying that the house example doesn't hold.

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Does it really matter?

 

My god.

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She does live in a nice house but she deserves it! :) 

 

 

You two must be good friends if you know her house is 5,800 square feet!

 

 

Have you seen the size of the house? It's a huge house. You can also drag it into google search and houses near it pop up haha..(STALKER OLIVIA JUST SHOWED UP) :P

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